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2016
08

Honda "Avancier" the first test: Honda progress, compromise and paranoia

    Avancier car before the official national test drive a wide range of media, we invited a number of video "red network" type of media people to experience. Driving directions are in strict accordance to the factory setting, the product is not completely finalized stage, interior configuration, security equipment has not been determined, it is not long on mentioning.

First, on 9AT-- reliability guarantee?

    I first heard about Honda Honda Avancier with 9AT when, in fact, is refreshing. Because 9AT sounds high standards, it is a selling point to the product plus points. Japanese in the past few "Shuafen", but the Honda Civic from Honda to Honda Avancier, began to have such signs, which can be understood as to meet market trends do - you can say it is a compromise, it can be said to be making progress.

    But microblogging comments sound look (I do not really pay attention to micro-blog comments, because some are not responsible to speak to strangers, right when the street survey worth mentioning), we are not one-sided on this 9AT welcome. It was suggested that this Honda 9AT from ZF, ZF and before the 9AT mounted on a Jeep Land Rover Range Rover Aurora light and freedom, are a problem of reliability and experience, criticized. Always will be "reliable" too much pride Honda powder are, how can tolerate such a risk? Honda engineers to answer this question when the media pointed out: Although this transmission from ZF, but Honda with their own transmission technology standard checks to ensure Honda to achieve the required level. My attitude? I hope so, to be verified.

Second, on or before 9 9AT-- fast stop?

    Test drive 9AT One thing that must be done: see how much speed can block 9. This determines the extent 9AT utility vehicles in China environment, no one wants to spend money to buy a nine block but life does not know that long-sawed block 9 ...... remember the first 9AT global free light, just because at 160km / h or less are less than 9 block and suffered ridicule. I opened a pair of 9AT Mercedes GLE Coupe, the engine power enough, 100km / h can block 9, this 9AT it is really good value for money.

    This time test drive Honda Avancier, the factory did not arrange the highway, I can only over a period of a few off-highway vehicle speed briefly to about 130km / h, and then cut to the manual mode and found not to block 9. So I come to "130km / h or less can not block 9" conclusion in the video.

    Technical briefing, the engineer told me that in fact this 9AT in 110km / h time of just 9 block, but the premise is very smooth cruising. Just a little throttle to accelerate the action, or a little external force (such as during Xiaopo even high winds), it will immediately jump back to the eight-speed. In other words, you can use a 9-speed is at 110km / h, but a little bit "squeamish" cruising gear. This is understandable, 6-8 would have been sufficient to cope with everyday use of gear, the gear 9 as icing on the cake, it is used low speed cruise fuel consumption. And the factory is set to 110km / h can be used, has been regarded as sufficient to take care of Chinese road - will not give the user "I do illegal speeding you do not have access," the handle. So the question I support the factory approach, Honda Avancier of 9AT not "bullying."

Third, it is still on 9AT-- actual opening up how?

    Some people say, 9AT brush data, 8AT is pulled specifications, 7AT is to optimize the experience, 6AT universal standard ...... it seems to me no matter several AT, it is important to match. AT industry it is currently the best match look two: a BMW, a Mazda. The two car I did not open to any one of AT match, "revealed the secret" of.

    The video says, Honda Avancier of 9AT did not give me the feeling handy. The main complaint is that kickdown performance, speed pulled amplitude, abrupt feeling somewhat obvious. If the open and impatient people "foot rough," people really having a hard time sitting. In this regard I asked Engineer: Why is this car at the time and did not show 9AT shift gears more smoothly advantage of convergence? Engineers say they believe the 2.0T engine output range wide enough, so I hope to make the driver via the throttle to control the speed of change, rather than the gearbox very "plot Thieves" and frequently jump stop. They think it will bring more smooth overall experience. I can only be so understood: Since this 9AT shift is not so smooth, then let it shift less, anyway, at different engine speed range guaranteed power.

    This logic is very interesting, reflecting the different art engine + gearbox setting different ideas. In the multi-gear turbine + gearbox with this tide, the factory engineers set space than in the past large, different settings will reflect the different driving personalities. Honda Avancier setting mode, in fact, it will be reflected in the character of the past tend to naturally aspirated power it is that you can feel at every gear change speed, and I found it throttle response than nowadays most turbo compression engine to be good, so this setting can be considered to highlight their advantages.

But then again, Honda Avancier or not give BMW 2.0T + 8AT kind to cis-cis, fast or faster class performance. It gave me the feeling, or a first-generation Honda powertrain, need time to polish perfect.

Four, 2.0T engine is strong enough?

    Honda Avancier Honda in China will be the first models equipped with 2.0T-powered models. With the new Civic the first half of the market, Honda has completed the 1.5T, 2.0T two new turbine engine landing in China market. 1.5T Civic big surprise to us (enough Meng), Honda Avancier of 2.0T despite pulling a big body, still did not disappoint, the factory in private that this car is one hundred kilometers acceleration time of only 7.8 seconds. Real feelings, which I should be opened more than 4.8 meters long, with 2.0T-powered SUV in the sense of acceleration in most large enough for one. Note that I still conservatively with "the most enough", because this time I tested all the time loaded with five people, nor do intense high-speed sprint, not yet say which limit the dynamic performance, the future also hopes to get the car detailed experience a bit.

    This 2.0T engine has a lot of advanced technology, including forged crankshaft, variable lift valve timing (effect similar VTEC), electrically controlled pressure relief valve. In a nutshell is the strong output, low emissions. It also has an aura: Civic Type-R and the engine of relatives, but different turbines and other peripherals. Asked why the output data not as high as the opponent? Engineer Answer: We can allow the engine to achieve any level of output, but the comprehensive needs of this car (including the use of ordinary 92 # gasoline), and now the best overall performance.


V. Chassis - Honda finally serious shot!

    Specifications and large bright, but not enough to complete the actual experience of power compared to, Honda Avancier chassis experience gave me the biggest surprise. It uses an electronic variable shock absorbers to ensure comfort and driving performance movement, which is a technical selling point; but I think it is more practical, Honda Avancier not follow the Accord's suspension, but the design of a new suspension, which aspect ratio Geshitu be serious, sincerity more. New suspension bushings were using hydraulic arm and front and rear aluminum, these two Honda-made car has never been, in the past only a mouthful to say he "real materials" generic cars will be used. Multi-link rear suspension configuration, the Accord is no longer the kind of thin rod (we called "even more stick" structure, is actually a very lean and reliable structure), but the overall style of the lower arm, certainly provide better suspension geometry control.

    The actual experience is, Honda Avancier when cornering have a good attitude control, go mountain drive roll is not scary, not the person Akira halo. This is in line with my expectations consistently Honda cornering performance. But I deliberately take a test ride is in the back seat, because in the new 9-generation Accord and Odyssey, take the back seat of sense too hard too Britain, and almost unacceptable. Honda Avancier swept the drawbacks I experienced in the rear two-thirds of the time spent, whether it is watching the scenery or watch phone, all easily without pressure, comfort is entirely superior level.

     Another surprise is muted. Factory scheduled road test drive very conservative, lack of road damage, speed is not too high, not far from my usual test in the vicinity of the company's road to the big acoustic performance test. In this environment, Honda Avancier quiet performance is quite satisfactory, the whole process of testing are quiet without nuisance state spent. Finally found a short gravel grind it, really good chassis noise suppression. There will be a little car engine sound, especially in Sport mode will be bigger, but they are pleasant, not annoying. Technical note claiming that the factory Honda Avancier mute sibling NO.1 preliminary opinion at least they are not empty, look forward to the future to find a tougher environment to verify the NO.1 couplers.

    Another surprise is muted. Factory scheduled road test drive very conservative, lack of road damage, speed is not too high, not far from my usual test in the vicinity of the company's road to the big acoustic performance test. In this environment, Honda Avancier quiet performance is quite satisfactory, the whole process of testing are quiet without nuisance state spent. Finally found a short gravel grind it, really good chassis noise suppression. There will be a little car engine sound, especially in Sport mode will be bigger, but they are pleasant, not annoying. Technical note claiming that the factory Honda Avancier mute sibling NO.1 preliminary opinion at least they are not empty, look forward to the future to find a tougher environment to verify the NO.1 couplers.

Sixth, on the "off-road almost zero," you come to explain? !

    The last sentence of my video is "almost zero off-road capability," caused a lot of people ask (and even manufacturers are also very critical of this sentence). If I say - because I go to record eight more minutes a mirror in the end, so that the last sentence is not very strict, and beg miss okay?

    Indeed there is not rigorous enough, because I simply did not test this car off-road. Traffic arrangements for the factory does not have any off-road content, engineers, and I also said, referring to off-road performance, Honda Avancier four-wheel drive system, not the pursuit of the powerful off-road performance (they have to be off-road SH-AWD). This car "off-road" merely in ground clearance is higher than the sedan, only. I visual look of its wheels and the gap between the wheel arches, barely a fist are not, imagine the suspension of the compression stroke and the car is no different, so you expect it to set the suspension had a large ridge of the major groove by nature, is wishful thinking.

    In fact, Honda has always been a "altogether unrealistic when discarded or niche demand" development philosophy, ancient CR-V cross-country to put aside, you just do not like spray, anyway, I know that my users do not care, do not need This one. Came Honda Avancier, I think it is basically this routine. Which with European manufacturers, "just to make you shut up and I want it done," the concept is different, Honda's philosophy is really more pragmatic.

    In fact, the same concept is reflected not only in Honda Avancier four-wheel drive and off-road capability, more significant is reflected in the five and seven choice. Honda Avancier completely abandon seven, it will be missed, "second child car" spread outlet. But Honda is clear - in fact, other vendors is also clear, five this level is more than seven sell more, so much more ...... Honda to abandon the seven this "gimmick", dedicated to be five, but also to do it invincible great big world backseat ...... Well, you have the strength you are cruel.

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